this ability to talk, i used to think your dad, although he made a lot of money in hollywood, he always had the magical ability to get on television or radio, especially radio, and talk to the guy working on the line somewhere in milwaukee, and that guy, maybe it was all those days of touring on the train with ge theater. bill clinton has gotten even better than he was before at talking to people the way they talk. >> it's true, and bruce springsteen, let's give him some credit, is an iconic figure among the kind of voters we're talking about. let's be frank, bruce springsteen is a very rich man. he's much closer to mitt romney kind of wealth than any of the rest of us, and yet his message, his songs speak to the voters we're talking about, they speak plainly and simply, just as bill clinton does in another realm. >> isn't it ironic he's saying with all his money and coming down in the middle politically, although a bit to the left, saying this land is your land. he's singing woody guthrie, these old depression songs. you, too, john. "born in the usa" but then today he was singing woody